Jordan Peterson’s Joe Rogan comments anger scientists

Scientists stunned by climate denial from podcast guest Joe Rogan

L.A, 2022-01-27 11:16:00. Jordan Peterson’s Joe Rogan comments anger scientists


As podcast executive Joe Rogan faces condemnation from medical scientists for spreading misinformation about vaccines and COVID-19, another interview by the controversial host this week has become the subject of ridicule — this time among climate scientists.

Canadian clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson appeared on “The Joe Rogan Experiment” Monday, making false and generalized claims that the modeling that scientists use to predict climate change and its effects are flawed.

“There is no such thing as a climate, right?” Peterson said in troubling remarks. He then went on to mock “climate types,” which he said usually refer to “climate revolves around everything.”

“But your models are not based on everything. Your models are based on a set number of variables. This means that you reduce the variables—which are everything—to that set. But how did you decide which set of variables to include in the equation if it was about everything?” “

Rogan, who hosts a podcast on Spotify, has done little to challenge unsupportive comments.

Peterson’s observations show a general misunderstanding of how scientific modeling works. Scientists use models, or simulations, to highlight certain aspects of climate change, such as rising global temperatures, changes in precipitation patterns and the potential for drought.

Climate scientists are now scoffing at Peterson’s claims.

“Such seemingly comical nihilism would be funny if it weren’t so dangerous,” Michael E. Mann, a climate scientist at Penn State University told CNN.

“An anti-science spread by these two people about COVID-19 is likely and will continue to lead to deaths. More extreme and potentially fatal weather conditions will die if we fail to deal with the climate crisis. So peddling misinformation about climate change is more dangerous in some ways. “.

Mann said Peterson’s claims were “illogical and false,” and seem to boil down to the idea that climate science is too complex for scientists to ever model or understand.

“Such a ridiculous argument leads to the exclusion of physics, chemistry, biology, and every other field of science where one formulates (and tests—this is the important part that Peterson seems to fail to understand) conceptual models that attempt to simplify the system and distill the principal components and their interactions,” Mann said. .

“Every great discovery in science arose in this way. Including the physics of electromagnetism that allowed Peterson and Rogan to record and broadcast this absurd and absurd conversation.”

Spotify declined to comment on the criticism. CNN has reached out to “The Joe Rogan Experience” for comment.

NASA climate scientist Gavin Schmidt shared similar views on Twitter, noting that Peterson did not seem to understand how climate models work.

Zeke Hausfather, a Berkeley Earth research scientist, tweeted an infographic showing how accurate scientists’ predictions of global warming over several decades are.

“For what it’s worth, we’ve been predicting future warming since the first climate models in the late 1960s/early 1970s. We can look back to see how well they performed. It turns out that our models overall did a good job,” he wrote.

The backlash came when musician Neil Young told podcast giant Spotify he no longer wanted his music to appear on the service due to Rogan’s repeated false claims about COVID-19 and vaccines.

Spotify announced Wednesday that it will not be streaming Neil Young’s music, according to a report from The Washington Post.

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